Your flawed argument is like calling the owner of a small grocery store stupid for not being more competitive and letting Walmart put him out of business.

So tell me about Bropact?

Seems like you shave a tech moon and you get 1200 sceamers in local that live from Fountain, all the way around to Gem.

i'll tell you about bropact when you tell me, in detail, about your in-game efforts to change who owns the tech moons.

SoCo has NEVER fielded a fleet that big, as in there isn't enough of the rest of the map.

which station did they stage a sit-in for that?

looks like that detailed account of their efforts to change ownership of tech moons will be a worse read than 50 shades of grey.

We took it, DNS actually shaved it, so we let them have it. They held it for 17 hours or some such.

That is the terrible -A- diplomacy you always scream about.

All of the POS mods are on my KB if you have any doubts.

It should not require CCP stepping in to solve the problems of either group (barring the possible redistribution of Tech moons). EVE has always been about player choices over and above any mechanic, nerf or buff. If players cannot make the effort to get off their comfortably padded couches and do something for themselves, then they should expect nothing to change.

They tried and CCP changed the wardec system.

Which actually worked for us, PL had about 35 hi-sec corps arrayed against -A- at the time.

Oh who were the first to scream when there were 4000 "pubies" arrayed against them? We changed our logistics routes, you guys cried all over the place.

Doesnt matter all, fact is..... 0.0 is numbers and super... both are easy to be bought with isk and isk promises to good corporations. Fact is, exessively amount of isks on one side is not healty and is severly disbalancing the game for many years to come....

CFC hasnt fought for anything.

Goons were given Dek
The rest of you either were already NC pets, that switched sides, or took vacated space. Any member of the CFC cannot do anything by themselves. Thats why there are 40k of them in the north. Also include PL in this. Since PL cant even hold their own Tech moons without callilng the CFC to save them.

The only thing that will break up the big circle jerk is a tech nerf, making it so expensive to hold more space that is needed or adding the War Dec mechanic that makes them pay for blue standings. Since they are "Allies" they should have the same cost.

You speak the Goon mentality truly, in that they use their allies to further themselves. Allies like FA and TEST, nothing more than tools to be employed in the commision of a task, and then petted on the head and tossed a few scraps to keep you placated. A TEST member once said that the Goons and TEST were BFFs, but the reality is that Goons don't have friends. Goons watch out for Goons, no one else. When you have served your purpose, you will be tossed aside if you are lucky.

The Goons are BoB now, in every way short of name. History repeats itself again, and how much of that history being repeated is unknown to everyone but to CCP and Mittani. Why it has taken this long for anyone to come to the conclusion is beyond me. I'm sure that during their transitional period would have been a good time to strike out, but unfortunately I believe everyone involved with them had nothing but stars in their eyes. Now given the pure money situation along with their combat doctrine, it's likely that no one will ever be capable of dislodging them from their position.

Why though, does all of null sec expect the high sec players to come and save them? Are the null sec players not up to the task themselves? What does that say when such players disparage a group that they fully expect to come and do what they are either afraid to do, or are just unwilling?

Pretty easy when you sit on your laurels.

Only conflict you got involved in was on DRF's side, and you didn't to jack there either.

WN was Horus'd Raiden. was an inside job (or a Goon spy) neither or which could be claimed as a military victory. Oddly you never tried against NC. There were scraps, but othing real.

You zerged Raiden with what 180 dreads to kill a Titan, and lost half of that fleet. If you can't beat them join them right?

So what do you do against an allaince that doesn't really care about space? Its been proven repeatedly that -A- is dead, and couldn't possibly do anything. Yet here we are, the leader of the SoCo, by default. We don't play your game. Bring that ****.


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waving the hand as a (lol) "badposter"

Raiden lost all of their SOV short of a few stations and like 2 systems when a founding corp took the rental income, and swapped SOV from rental holding corp to Rolling Thunder and bagged ass.


There was no military conquering there either, a bit of sadistic opportunism, but that's eve.

http://www.mmorpg.com/blogs/Teala/052012/23055_BOB-20-Did-employees-of-CCP-show-favoritism-to-a-Corporation-again

Is it any wonder that the CFC controls such a vast portion of northern nullspace?

Don't see how that's the CFC's fault then. So much hate for no reason

You act as if Goons had any risk when they took the moons, they zerg and scammed their way to the tech moons. They have numbers and numbers win in EvE.

Fixing tech won't do anything to immediately effect the way things are. You guys have been bathing in moon goo for what, 3 years now? Pulling in something like 15 billion a month per moon over three years means your coffers are good and padded.






The Goons were given half of their tech moons by an alliance that moved out of the system/dissolved. The remainder of the moons were taken after CCP decided to nerf tracking on super caps out of the blue, and goons blobbed everything with sub-caps.

I would say that falls in the line of the Goons being given just about everything they have.